What you all defrauded us out of:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwvmOVSlXvA
Address to you defrauders:
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReinaValera1865?feature=mhum#p/u/12/f_j_iPbE0KI
The whole story about the fraud from Jeff Mcardle and all his criminal accomplices
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReinaValera1865?feature=mhum#p/u/130/U5Z2nhy5Va0
Dear Godless Criminals,
We are completely broke. We lost everything. We are being evicted from where we live and we don't have money to go anywhere.
My mother still is battling Cancer and I have a medical disability and still battling with Satanic Ritual Abuse being done to my only son.
We gave a huge amount of money to Lighthouse Baptist San Diego over 5 years and countless hours of service and we
brought many people to that church that you are getting their tithes...how about some financial help???
Jeff
http://www.youtube.com/user/ReinaValera1865?feature=mhum#p/u/130/U5Z2nhy5Va0 ended up with $10,000 Cash and $2000 in apple computer equipment (and he wanted to defraud us of alot more)
but that is what he got...how about some of that money back mr. Mcardle??
We gave $3000 for Gospel tracts for PBI grads out in the mission field...Ruckman's board of directors stole that money
and used it as an excuse to throw me out of their church and bible institute...How dare I tell the 'men of God' what to do with
their money...how about some money back???
It cost us $28,000 to sell our house...Doug Brandenberg and Joshua Stephenson were heavily involved in brainwashing us into
selling our home to go into business with Jeff Mcardle to produce a Spanish Reference Bible, translate 120 publications of Peter
Ruckman into Spanish and produce an online Spanish bible institute....We left a 4 bedroom house for that, we paid 20% of normal taxes
under CA prop 13, we had a trailer in the back that got $800 a month rent...we had 2 empty bedrooms we could rent for $500 a month each
Now we have nothing...we're going to be homeless in less than a month with an eviction on our record...Why??? Because we trusted
these 'men of God' and checked our brain at the Church door...All those years knocking on doors and standing on a corner
trying to get people into Lighthouse Baptist Church for what??? So they could character assasinate us and throw us out and turn
our friends against us?? after you isolate us from general society??
It cost $6000 to go to pensacola and back (2 trips plus plane tickets), $20,000 in lease agreement and months building a production
facility for a lie!!...$5000 in child support while unemployed...Should I really keep going??? $10,000 Dollars to defend myself from 2 felony charges filed against me for posession of a rifle legal in 48 states that they got by breaking and entering into our apartment
without a search warrant...Thank you for that Jeff mcardle that was the last $10,000 we had left
The thing that really gets to me is that after Mcardle stole all that money I end up at Peter Ruckman's office where they threaten me that they know so much about my personal life because of what Gill Torres was told in the utmost of privacy for the purposes of spiritual and biblical counseling for my fiancee and I...That was used as an extorsion ploy agaist us by Ruckman and his minions while they wore suits emblazoned with the all seeing eye of horus...what is that?? Illuminati? satanism? We gave our home readily
to give something to Latin America that they don't have...a good reference bible, 120 publications and bible commentaries and a spanish online bible institute...but this was all a fraud orchestrated by Jeff Mcardle and all his buddy buddies at the valera bible society and made possible only though extreme mind manipulation from Doug Brandenberg and Joshua Stephenson of Lighthouse Baptist Church San Diego...and you filthy criminals won't even return a call???
Is this how you murderers with bibles operate?? extorsion? framing? using counseling as an extorsion tool?? we lost all our friends, you turned all our friends and the people we brought to that church against us...this after you made us to loose all our friends outside of the IFB cult...so you could isolate us better and brain wash us better into giving you all our time and money and devotion...so you can preach a false gospel of being bound and blindly obedient to the 'man of God' so you can steal our home from under us with all manner of lies and deception!!!
Woe unto you scribes and pharisees!! You have condemned and killed the just and he does not resist you!! You have murdered
an innocent child of God that only wanted to do right by the Lord!!!
We Beg God to bring down Swift Justice and destruction against your household of lies and deceit and fraud and destruction!!!
You PEOPLE ARE MURDERERS WITH BIBLES...WE DEMAND THAT YOU MAKE RESTITUTION TO US OR WE BEG AND PLEAD THAT GOD WOULD BRING ALL OF HIS WRATH UPON YOUR HOMES AND YOUR FAMILIES AND YOUR MINISTRIES AND THAT HE BIND YOU HAND AND FOOT
AND CAST YOU INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE FOR BEING THE MATTHEWY 23 MURDERERS OF OUR GENERATION!!
WE BEG YOU TO DO RIGHT OR BEG GOD TO BRING SWIFT JUSTICE AGAINST YOU MURDERERS WITH BIBLES!!!D
if you do not help us we will -Lord willing- file a million dollar lawsuit for fraud, conspiracy to commit fraud, character assasination, extorsion, deception and manipulation against all of you and bring local, state, national and international attention
to this fraud!!! and you will still have to face God for your filthy dirty disgusting Satanic deeds toward us
True and undefiled religion before God is to visit the fatherless and the widows in their affliction...NOT TO DEFRAUD THEM,
CHARACTER ASSASINATE THEM AND MURDER THEM WITH YOUR LIES AND BIBLES!!
FOR THE REST OF THE VIDEOS AND BLOGS SEE OUR WEBSITES:
HTTP://WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/REINAVALERA1865
HTTP://WWW.SOLASCRIPTURAS.COM
Friday, May 6, 2011
Thursday, April 14, 2011
LATEST LETTER TO THE CRIMINALS THAT DEFRAUDED US
To Lighthouse Baptist Church San Diego 'leadership', Joshua Stephenson, Jeff Mcardle and his Valera Bible Society and Peter Ruckman and his criminal board of directors.
Dear Sirs,
This is not the first time I have written to you -BEGGING YOU- to address the extreme abuse
that my family and I have been subjected to by the 'leadership' of your church.
I have written many letters to you -ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED-
I guess you're too busy murdering people with your bibles and enslaving Christians and making merchandise
out of them to listen to us.
We have been conned out of our home by your leadership. Your 'Doctor' Doug Brandenberg not only
deceived me and enslaved me with his 'man of God' lies and manipulation that only you have the truth
and that if I don't blindly obey 'the man of God' that I will go to hell, but he has been directly involved in a
fraud that cost us our home and life savings and over $250,000 in damages...along with Joshua Stephenson
who runs a satellite church that you finance 'bible believers baptist church' in El Cajon.
You murderers with bibles sent me to that church after you threw me out without a hearing -breaking your own laws of incorporation-. Everything that me, my fiancee and my mother ever told Gill Torres -your associate pastor- in confidence during your mandated 'counseling sessions' has been brought up to be used against us as a tool of extorsion by the very people that defrauded us...Peter Ruckman, Jeff Mcardle, Joshua Stephenson, et al.
I have spent the last 13 months of my life filing criminal complaints against my defrauders and we have not included you in the criminal complaints -at least not yet- and we have been building and preparing our case of fraud and talking to the main stream media and exposing your crimes on the internet with the help of other IFB Cult Survivors.
You criminals make me sick!!! You make merchandise out of people and enslave them for filthy lucre sake!! You are not 'pastors' or 'ministers of God' you are deceivers and extorsioners and defrauders and 'murderers with bibles' because you murder people (character assasinate them and enslave them) with your filthy lies!!
We demand financial restitution for the criminal attrocities you have committed against our family...We want our house back that you took from this fraud and we know that you are in bed with Mcardle and Ruckman on this one...because those threats and personal info we shared with Gill Torres came out of Ruckman and Mcardle's mouth as extorsion tools against us to try to shut us up to avoid embarrassment regarding incest in my ex fiancees family, satanic ritual abuse in my family that we have been a victim of and personal tragedy in our lives that you want to capitalize upon as a tool of extorsion against us...Shame on you Murderers with bibles!!
We will not let you get away with it...I was officially thrown out of the Spanish Ministry when I told Gill Torres that his 'right hand man' (or right hand Murderer) was a Jesuit priest (which he is, trained in Mexico by the Jesuit order as a Catholic Priest) teaching damnable Cat Holic heresies not in the bible and committing adultery with 2 women in the church (and Gill Torres has covered up other adultery scandals of his right hand man)...then I confronted Gill Torres on promoting the Reina Valera 1960 critical text but all he wants to do is swap pulpits and get rich with his heretic friend Elmer Fernandez who promotes that catholic bible...you claim you stand for the word of God...what a sham!!
Then I moved to the English ministry and was viciously targetted by one of your 'handlers' Dr. Dog Brandenberg with his damnable lies that only you have the truth, that I have to be baptized in an IFB Cult sespool water to be 'saved'...and forced me to go 'get saved' again more than 20 years after I got saved at age 15...continually manipulating me and telling me I was not saved and I could not be saved. This murderer with a bible told me I needed to get out of the wedding business if I wanted to continue in the ministry and that I could not 'walk with God' or be saved if I did that kind of work and I sold my business -twice- at an enormous financial cost to me only to please this heretic who enslaved my mind with his lies.
You murderers with bibles lied about my financial contributions, you purposely did not report much of the money I gave to your church and when I complained about it you asked me whether I was 'giving it to God' or 'giving it to Caesar' and that it was better for you not to report it that way you would not have to pay as many taxes and you could help more missionaries that way...Little did I know you were stealing from the flock...not only do you lie to people and deceive them into believing that only you 'mighty men of God' have the truth but you defraud us out of our money for filthy lucre's sake.
and I know you cover up alot of crimes in your church...I know two girls that came in through your bus ministry that were PHYSICALLY RAPED by men in your 'leadership' but they refuse to talk because you threatened them and told them to 'leave it to the Lord'...same thing that they did to Tina Anderson who just came out on ABC 20/20...you murderers with bibles cover up your crimes really good don't you??
You murderers rule through fear and intimidation and extreme indoctrination and mind control. All my friends that built the Spanish ministry from 200 to over 1000 that heretic Gill Torres (the Spanish 'pastor') and his Jesuit right hand Julio Garcia threw out in contempt...You ran out all the men that built that church, you used us to build that church and bring all those people in and then you throw us out like its nothing...you are the Matthew 23 scum of the Earth that the Lord talked about...The whole condemnation of this generation rests on your shoulders!!!
You make a big stink about Gill Torres' wife when she got cancer and died and you never visited my mother after we were left out on the street -after you and Mcardle and Ruckman- defrauded us out of our home...You ruthless murderers with bibles...May God throw the whole book of the Law at you you merciless cowards!!
We demand restitution...Your filthy lawyer friend David Gibbs is a criminal co conspirator of you...I called the 'Christian Law Association' to tell them about Doug Brandenberg and all the Damnable heresies he teaches and how he had me mind controlled with his Jesuit lies and the very next day you throw me out of the church with a call from Brandenberg throwing me out...You people are sick!! There is no attorney client privilege with that David Gibbs...he only protects pedophiles like you and criminals in the ministry like you...we gave over $1000 to the CLA with the Lies of Gibbs saying that if we ever had legal problems that the CLA would help us but instead he betrayed us and broke the law...That criminal should be disbarred and charged with conspiracy to protect the IFB Cult and it's crimes!!! You murderers with bibles have no honor!! You are just ruthless criminals out to make merchandise out of people!!
Then after you take our home and all the money and service we gave to your 'church' you try to have me imprisoned with bogus trumped up charges that you came up with in the first place (see video for details, I don't care to repeat the story)
We give you one week to talk to us about compensation...We want compensation for what you have done to us, otherwise we will also file criminal charges against all of you as well as sue you in civil court for damages from your financial fraud against us.
We are in contact with ABC 20/20 and have the support of IFB Cult Survivors all over and a watchdog organization is going to do a story on what you murderers with bibles have done to us and distribute it to over 2500 IFB churches nationwide.
We demand restitution!!! We are utterly disgusted with you Murderers with Bibles!!
Make no mistake about it, We will spend the rest of our lives fighting for restitution and We will Expose you
to the world for the frauds you have committed against us and will Demand your resignation and to be criminally tried...We demand restitution right now!!!
Here's the video links of what you murderers did to us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FdLP4yPzE8 (what you murderers did to us)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Z2nhy5Va0 (whole story of the fraud)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e_gVPN77Ho (public address to lighthouse baptist church)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brHN003BHx8 (criminal indictment imminent)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bhpAyHh88 (valera bible society fraud)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGv5WXIB5pg (jeff mcardle broke on $300,000 a year)
Our blog:
http://www.solascripturas.com
In Christ,
Lidia Ibarra and Allen Sanchez for Spanish Baptist Press
Dear Sirs,
This is not the first time I have written to you -BEGGING YOU- to address the extreme abuse
that my family and I have been subjected to by the 'leadership' of your church.
I have written many letters to you -ALL OF WHICH HAVE BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED-
I guess you're too busy murdering people with your bibles and enslaving Christians and making merchandise
out of them to listen to us.
We have been conned out of our home by your leadership. Your 'Doctor' Doug Brandenberg not only
deceived me and enslaved me with his 'man of God' lies and manipulation that only you have the truth
and that if I don't blindly obey 'the man of God' that I will go to hell, but he has been directly involved in a
fraud that cost us our home and life savings and over $250,000 in damages...along with Joshua Stephenson
who runs a satellite church that you finance 'bible believers baptist church' in El Cajon.
You murderers with bibles sent me to that church after you threw me out without a hearing -breaking your own laws of incorporation-. Everything that me, my fiancee and my mother ever told Gill Torres -your associate pastor- in confidence during your mandated 'counseling sessions' has been brought up to be used against us as a tool of extorsion by the very people that defrauded us...Peter Ruckman, Jeff Mcardle, Joshua Stephenson, et al.
I have spent the last 13 months of my life filing criminal complaints against my defrauders and we have not included you in the criminal complaints -at least not yet- and we have been building and preparing our case of fraud and talking to the main stream media and exposing your crimes on the internet with the help of other IFB Cult Survivors.
You criminals make me sick!!! You make merchandise out of people and enslave them for filthy lucre sake!! You are not 'pastors' or 'ministers of God' you are deceivers and extorsioners and defrauders and 'murderers with bibles' because you murder people (character assasinate them and enslave them) with your filthy lies!!
We demand financial restitution for the criminal attrocities you have committed against our family...We want our house back that you took from this fraud and we know that you are in bed with Mcardle and Ruckman on this one...because those threats and personal info we shared with Gill Torres came out of Ruckman and Mcardle's mouth as extorsion tools against us to try to shut us up to avoid embarrassment regarding incest in my ex fiancees family, satanic ritual abuse in my family that we have been a victim of and personal tragedy in our lives that you want to capitalize upon as a tool of extorsion against us...Shame on you Murderers with bibles!!
We will not let you get away with it...I was officially thrown out of the Spanish Ministry when I told Gill Torres that his 'right hand man' (or right hand Murderer) was a Jesuit priest (which he is, trained in Mexico by the Jesuit order as a Catholic Priest) teaching damnable Cat Holic heresies not in the bible and committing adultery with 2 women in the church (and Gill Torres has covered up other adultery scandals of his right hand man)...then I confronted Gill Torres on promoting the Reina Valera 1960 critical text but all he wants to do is swap pulpits and get rich with his heretic friend Elmer Fernandez who promotes that catholic bible...you claim you stand for the word of God...what a sham!!
Then I moved to the English ministry and was viciously targetted by one of your 'handlers' Dr. Dog Brandenberg with his damnable lies that only you have the truth, that I have to be baptized in an IFB Cult sespool water to be 'saved'...and forced me to go 'get saved' again more than 20 years after I got saved at age 15...continually manipulating me and telling me I was not saved and I could not be saved. This murderer with a bible told me I needed to get out of the wedding business if I wanted to continue in the ministry and that I could not 'walk with God' or be saved if I did that kind of work and I sold my business -twice- at an enormous financial cost to me only to please this heretic who enslaved my mind with his lies.
You murderers with bibles lied about my financial contributions, you purposely did not report much of the money I gave to your church and when I complained about it you asked me whether I was 'giving it to God' or 'giving it to Caesar' and that it was better for you not to report it that way you would not have to pay as many taxes and you could help more missionaries that way...Little did I know you were stealing from the flock...not only do you lie to people and deceive them into believing that only you 'mighty men of God' have the truth but you defraud us out of our money for filthy lucre's sake.
and I know you cover up alot of crimes in your church...I know two girls that came in through your bus ministry that were PHYSICALLY RAPED by men in your 'leadership' but they refuse to talk because you threatened them and told them to 'leave it to the Lord'...same thing that they did to Tina Anderson who just came out on ABC 20/20...you murderers with bibles cover up your crimes really good don't you??
You murderers rule through fear and intimidation and extreme indoctrination and mind control. All my friends that built the Spanish ministry from 200 to over 1000 that heretic Gill Torres (the Spanish 'pastor') and his Jesuit right hand Julio Garcia threw out in contempt...You ran out all the men that built that church, you used us to build that church and bring all those people in and then you throw us out like its nothing...you are the Matthew 23 scum of the Earth that the Lord talked about...The whole condemnation of this generation rests on your shoulders!!!
You make a big stink about Gill Torres' wife when she got cancer and died and you never visited my mother after we were left out on the street -after you and Mcardle and Ruckman- defrauded us out of our home...You ruthless murderers with bibles...May God throw the whole book of the Law at you you merciless cowards!!
We demand restitution...Your filthy lawyer friend David Gibbs is a criminal co conspirator of you...I called the 'Christian Law Association' to tell them about Doug Brandenberg and all the Damnable heresies he teaches and how he had me mind controlled with his Jesuit lies and the very next day you throw me out of the church with a call from Brandenberg throwing me out...You people are sick!! There is no attorney client privilege with that David Gibbs...he only protects pedophiles like you and criminals in the ministry like you...we gave over $1000 to the CLA with the Lies of Gibbs saying that if we ever had legal problems that the CLA would help us but instead he betrayed us and broke the law...That criminal should be disbarred and charged with conspiracy to protect the IFB Cult and it's crimes!!! You murderers with bibles have no honor!! You are just ruthless criminals out to make merchandise out of people!!
Then after you take our home and all the money and service we gave to your 'church' you try to have me imprisoned with bogus trumped up charges that you came up with in the first place (see video for details, I don't care to repeat the story)
We give you one week to talk to us about compensation...We want compensation for what you have done to us, otherwise we will also file criminal charges against all of you as well as sue you in civil court for damages from your financial fraud against us.
We are in contact with ABC 20/20 and have the support of IFB Cult Survivors all over and a watchdog organization is going to do a story on what you murderers with bibles have done to us and distribute it to over 2500 IFB churches nationwide.
We demand restitution!!! We are utterly disgusted with you Murderers with Bibles!!
Make no mistake about it, We will spend the rest of our lives fighting for restitution and We will Expose you
to the world for the frauds you have committed against us and will Demand your resignation and to be criminally tried...We demand restitution right now!!!
Here's the video links of what you murderers did to us:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FdLP4yPzE8 (what you murderers did to us)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Z2nhy5Va0 (whole story of the fraud)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5e_gVPN77Ho (public address to lighthouse baptist church)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brHN003BHx8 (criminal indictment imminent)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1bhpAyHh88 (valera bible society fraud)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGv5WXIB5pg (jeff mcardle broke on $300,000 a year)
Our blog:
http://www.solascripturas.com
In Christ,
Lidia Ibarra and Allen Sanchez for Spanish Baptist Press
GREAT ARTICLE ON THE IFB CULT 'MAN OF GOD' NONSENSE
"The opposite of faith is not doubt. The opposite of faith is certainty." -Ieuan Brydydd Hir
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
On the ABC 20/20 Special About IFB Abuse
Some of you may have watched the ABC 20/20 special on Friday, April 12, 2011, concerning sexual abuse in IFB churches.
What we have been hearing about the Catholic church, we are now hearing about IFB churches. I think the two situations are similar. Some will respond that the Catholic church issue is more dangerous because it is the priests who are molesting, but that misses the issue, I think. The issue is that in both the Catholic and the IFB churches, what abuse HAS gone on was covered up well. The issue is not so much the abuse, as molesters can be found everywhere and anywhere that depraved men are able to give into their lusts. The issue is the cover up.
One way I was disappointed in the 20/20 special was that they didn't do enough to tie IFB churches together. One blurb about going to the same colleges was all that I saw. Another unfortunate omission was any fleshing out of what I call the Man-O-God syndrome, or excessive pastoral authority. It is the excessive pastoral authority that is the ROOT of IFB churches' tendencies to cover up, not just sexual abuse, but many, many, other abuses. It is this excessive pastoral authority that gives rise to accusations that IFB churches are a cult.
It is in this way that attacking IFB churches over molestation charges is precisely the wrong way to bring to light IFB error. I can understand that such attempts are the cry of victims seeking redress. I also understand that such attempts are an attempt to harness the sensational nature of molestation charges in the fight against IFB error. But in the end it doesn't stick, because it comes across as so much mudslinging. Now I think surely that these IFB churches ought to be held accountable for covering these things up, and the perpetrators dealt with. But as a broadside against the IFB network of churches in general, it's not going to be effective; rather, it has the potential to backfire.
The molestation charges, for one, don't tell the whole story of IFB cover-ups. You've got numerous "Man-O-Gods" scattered throughout IFB-dom guilty at this very moment of adultery, financial mismanagement, theft, spiritual abuse, and yes even sexual abuse. You've got "Man-O-Gods" controlling and dictating their church members' lives (whether that be requiring them to ask permission or demanding veto power). And it all gets swept under the rug because he's the "Man-O-God." As the English Lord Acton said:
"I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King [and "Man-O-God" -ed.] unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it."
And so we see at the very bitter end of all of this that it boils down to bad theology: the concept of power as expressed in IFB churches, that of a single "benevolent dictator," is entirely unscriptural. The New Testament gives us a pattern of equal elder rule for a reason.
So what's the right way to attack this? Expose all manner of "Man-O-God" wrongdoing and cover-up. Show how these "Man-O-Gods" abuse their position in myriad ways. No corner of IFBdom will escape the scope of THAT investigation.
But us Christians don't have to wait for another episode of 20/20. We need to reaffirm our commitment to Scripture and to Biblical church governance, and reject single-pastor rule.
Sphere: Related Content
Posted by David T. at 8:21 AM
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
On the ABC 20/20 Special About IFB Abuse
Some of you may have watched the ABC 20/20 special on Friday, April 12, 2011, concerning sexual abuse in IFB churches.
What we have been hearing about the Catholic church, we are now hearing about IFB churches. I think the two situations are similar. Some will respond that the Catholic church issue is more dangerous because it is the priests who are molesting, but that misses the issue, I think. The issue is that in both the Catholic and the IFB churches, what abuse HAS gone on was covered up well. The issue is not so much the abuse, as molesters can be found everywhere and anywhere that depraved men are able to give into their lusts. The issue is the cover up.
One way I was disappointed in the 20/20 special was that they didn't do enough to tie IFB churches together. One blurb about going to the same colleges was all that I saw. Another unfortunate omission was any fleshing out of what I call the Man-O-God syndrome, or excessive pastoral authority. It is the excessive pastoral authority that is the ROOT of IFB churches' tendencies to cover up, not just sexual abuse, but many, many, other abuses. It is this excessive pastoral authority that gives rise to accusations that IFB churches are a cult.
It is in this way that attacking IFB churches over molestation charges is precisely the wrong way to bring to light IFB error. I can understand that such attempts are the cry of victims seeking redress. I also understand that such attempts are an attempt to harness the sensational nature of molestation charges in the fight against IFB error. But in the end it doesn't stick, because it comes across as so much mudslinging. Now I think surely that these IFB churches ought to be held accountable for covering these things up, and the perpetrators dealt with. But as a broadside against the IFB network of churches in general, it's not going to be effective; rather, it has the potential to backfire.
The molestation charges, for one, don't tell the whole story of IFB cover-ups. You've got numerous "Man-O-Gods" scattered throughout IFB-dom guilty at this very moment of adultery, financial mismanagement, theft, spiritual abuse, and yes even sexual abuse. You've got "Man-O-Gods" controlling and dictating their church members' lives (whether that be requiring them to ask permission or demanding veto power). And it all gets swept under the rug because he's the "Man-O-God." As the English Lord Acton said:
"I cannot accept your canon that we are to judge Pope and King [and "Man-O-God" -ed.] unlike other men with a favourable presumption that they did no wrong. If there is any presumption, it is the other way, against the holders of power, increasing as the power increases. Historic responsibility has to make up for the want of legal responsibility. All power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Great men are almost always bad men, even when they exercise influence and not authority: still more when you superadd the tendency or certainty of corruption by full authority. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it."
And so we see at the very bitter end of all of this that it boils down to bad theology: the concept of power as expressed in IFB churches, that of a single "benevolent dictator," is entirely unscriptural. The New Testament gives us a pattern of equal elder rule for a reason.
So what's the right way to attack this? Expose all manner of "Man-O-God" wrongdoing and cover-up. Show how these "Man-O-Gods" abuse their position in myriad ways. No corner of IFBdom will escape the scope of THAT investigation.
But us Christians don't have to wait for another episode of 20/20. We need to reaffirm our commitment to Scripture and to Biblical church governance, and reject single-pastor rule.
Sphere: Related Content
Posted by David T. at 8:21 AM
Tuesday, April 12, 2011
EVIDENCE OF EXTREME MANIPULATION AND INDOCTRINATION!!!
'BY THEIR ACTIONS YE SHALL KNOW THEM'
EXCERPT FROM:
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/hyles-j.htm
I am finding the battle with the disciples of Jack Hyles a threat to my health. I have been threatened with physical attack, hints of death, entrapped in "private" email exchanges which were later posted to large mailing lists, lied about on boards, and threatened with law suits. This has not been from the Hyles family-- It has come from his disciples.
No one in Christendom, nor in witchcraft, nor the sodomites, have sent me more filthy and hateful mail than the Hyles people. They are bullies with no restraint. Their level of hate is beyond measure. In fact, I have lost my confidence in the Baptist concept. The lust for porn, power, and pesos by Baptist preachers, by and large, is beyond anything I have seen in the rest of Christendom. And, I think that is not overstatement. I have lived in the midst of Anglicans, Maryknoll Fathers, Jesuits, Pentecostals, Holiness, Methodists, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Dutch Reformed, Lutherans, Nazarenes, Independents, Armenians, Orthodox, Mennonites, Amish, and others I cannot recall now. I have NEVER seen anything as hate driven, and as blind in guruism, as the Hyles club.
Even Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, and the Pope will happily take your gift, pat you on the head, and walk off content. The average Fundamental Baptist preacher pockets your gift, and then he takes control of your home, your kids, your wife, your procreation choices, your time, your clothing choices, your loyalty, and your mind.
CAUTION: Not all Fundamental Baptist pastors are such beasts, but you need to know that you cannot just drift along without examining all things. Thank God for you who have caught on and gotten right. Virtually ALL Hyles men are suspect and should be avoided. If you love your wife, and your daughter's virginity, you will not go near a Hyles church.
Furthermore; all Baptists, no matter how sound they me be perceived, are on their way to the Hyles mind. I believe there is a devil investment in the Baptist movement, similar to the demonic invasion of the Methodist Church in about the 1950s, which will destroy virtually all Baptist churches eventually.
SALIENT COMMENTS TAKEN FROM TESTIMONIALS OF FORMER HYLES FUNDAMENTALISTS TAKEN FROM:
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/hyles/testim.htm
FROM A FUNDAMENTALIST PASTOR:
Jack Hyles is the "Elijah" of this generation, and not to be questioned, criticized or spoken ill of;
God only is working through First Baptist and that church is needed if revival is going to take place in America;
Jack Hyles is personally responsible for my salvation (no kidding, he claims if Jack were not around, no Americans today would be saved -- he said I needed to "thank" Hyles for my salvation);
All churches in America have been touched by Jack Hyles;
Jack Hyles has "led" more people to the Lord than anyone; therefore; he is not be questioned;
Hyles words are final authority (he admitted that he doesn’t compare Hyles teachings to scripture, as this would be sin).
FROM AN HAC DEACON:
I could tell many stories, but here are the things that made me, after a year down at HAC, not want to be a part of that movement [any longer]:
1. The demands and hours of service were absolutely crazy. The real "spiritual" students were praised for giving their entire lives for ridiculous schedules. Some were often physically ill because of the demands. Where was family life? No wonder so many were falling into immorality. I must note that when I was there, I felt safe and never saw outward signs of immorality or felt Dr. Hyles said lewd things. I guess I was involved when there was still enough Godly influence on the college staff; I don't know.
2. They acted as though they were the only ones with truth. My church back home where I was saved was "not separated enough." That really put a big red flag in my mind.
3. Dr. Hyles would allow us as female students to sit on his car hood while he drove off slowly, after a girl's meeting with "Daddy Hyles," screaming, "We love you preacher!" like he was some rock star with groupies!!! He would throw down 10- and 20-dollar bills from the cafeteria balcony at screaming girls. He would allow the girls to pat his back and "touch his garments" so to speak, when he would go to the cafeteria after a girl's meeting to have our free pizza. When I was in it, I thought it was perfectly normal. It took some years to see the inappropriateness of this "hero worship." But at the time it really met "needs" for love, excitement, fun, and significance.
4. One of my roommates, after a Sunday night service, got into the "preacher boys line" outside of Dr. Hyles' office to ask a question. She was not aware she was not to be in THAT line. Well, according to her, Dr. Hyles screamed at her in front of everyone and told her off for being in the wrong line. She related this story, still shaken and in tears in our dorm. We were kind of in shock, and calmed her down by saying, "he's tired, I'm sure he didn't mean it". That was the other red flag in my mind.
FROM ANOTHER HAC DEACON:
" As long as you agree with him and don't buck what he has to say -- you're okay. Members are shunned if they disagree.
Some issues:
1. Monies (thousands of dollars) are not reported to any of the members. These monies are spent on non-needed things.
2. Several buddies (of the pastor) are employed by the church. .... without voting upon them or without knowledge of members.
3. Leadership (deacons) has no say so in any matters.
4. There is no accountability.
5. Members say that he has a cult. -- I forgot to mention ... when he came to our church three years ago from another state, he brought along three families of followers (non-family members.) These families sit near the pulpit ... like they are protecting him.
6. He brought in a child-molester (from out of state) to head our media ministry. He knew of this man's past, but failed to tell anyone at the church, [yet] we have many children in our services. I stumbled on this information.
I could go on and on. ... I still have many members that call and they are very upset with what he is still doing there at the church, but they can't [seem to] leave.
A FEMALE HAC STUDENT:
I remember some of the meetings that the college girls would have with "The Preacher" (Dr. Hyles). If anyone would have walked into the room, they would have thought that all these college age girls were waiting for Elvis to return. We were taught to actually worship him and treat him as an idol. There was a song that we would sing to him to make him come out to the stage:
"We love you preacher, oh yes we do, we don't love anyone as much as you. If you're not with us, we're blue, Oh Preacher we love you"!
He would not come out until the girls were in a frenzy. What happened to only preaching Christ and him crucified? Even at the time, these meetings made me very uncomfortable. They seemed to be very sexual in nature. He would speak to us as if we were his girls that he was trying to court or swoon. Being a mother today, I would NEVER allow my daughter to attend these meetings. Hyles' Church and college have hurt many people. Many of the young pastors that have looked up to him (like the one that I spoke of) carry on his legacy of man-worship. I feel mostly for the women who suffer the degrading remarks and humiliation that comes from their beliefs.
A BODY GUARD OF JACK HYLES (WHY WOULD HE NEED A BODY GUARD IN THE FIRST PLACE??)
I was one of Jack Hyles' personal body guards from 1978-83. If you only knew the actual man. I met with him personally and saw his megalomania and personal greed. I have talked with many of his personal staff and found their stories to be reputable when proclaiming his escapades and sexually perverted tendencies. There was one staff member at Hyles Anderson College, a Bill McFadden, who had sex with a student in the chapel tunnel; when it was reported, the incident was swept under the rug and dismissed. Jack was not going to let this ruin his monarchy. Jack was more like Jimmy Swaggart or James Bakker than a man of God
A MAN GIVEN THE SOUL WINNER OF THE YEAR AWARD:
Jack Hyles would say and do anything to validate his ministry and his massive ego. Numbers were ALL that mattered to him. I have seen buses full of black children who, while not being allowed in the bus ministry, were driven down the alley behind the church, told to repeat a prayer, and counted as "souls won on church property" during big days. It was a disgraceful practice!
In all my years in Hyles' church I was NEVER able to find ONE person whom Jack Hyles personally led to the Lord, even in his own fraudulent way. He was big on sending others, but he himself NEVER went!
Thank you for reminding folks what a fraud this entire ministry was and is. His son-in-law now runs the show. He is a man who is thoroughly compromised by his detailed knowledge of everything that went on there for twenty years -- the moral degeneracy of Dave Hyles, the child molestations, the rampant affairs, divorces, debauchery and adultery, the lust and fornication on the part of so many staff members, the cultishness, the siege mentality, the twisted doctrine, the arranged marriages, and so much more. I have seen it all firsthand.
A SON OF AN HAC PASTOR:
My dad would follow the Hyles handbook on child raising, and was very abusive. When he would take me in the room to spank me, he would have me remove my pants and he would turn out the light, it was dark outside, and he would use his belt and he would not care where it hit. Many times I went to school the next day with bleeding welts on my back and legs and would have a black eye from where the belt hit me in the face. There were times when I was sent to school without food and I would beg for food from my friends. Once at the school, my first grade teacher took my lunch away from me and threw it in the garbage for talking in class. I had already gone two days without food and was so eagerly wanting that lunch that after school I went to the dumpster and tore open the garbage bags until I found my lunch. Another time my Dad took me into a field and made me run, and if he caught me he would beat me until I was bleeding. Needles to say, being only eight years old, he caught me.
THE NUMBERS GAME:
I am a Hyles-Anderson grad, and everything you said is right on the mark. Some of us truly tried to present the Gospel clearly, but we had nowhere near the numbers the "big boys" did. If the Hyles and Grays and Neals and all the others who are having "thousands saved," presented salvation as a complete change of life, you know what the results would be. When I sat in the auditorium in Hammond for seven years (2 degrees), I hardly ever saw anyone coming regularly who looked [or acted] like they were newly saved people. Oh, they might come once, but that was it. Let's face it, if they were having 15-20,000 baptisms a year (that wasn't so either, but that's another story) and only 1% were real and began attending, they would have needed to add seating for another 500 people every 3 years or so. It never happened. What a fantasy. This all panders to pride and arrogance, which is the driving force behind all these ministries. I could go on and so could you, but for what ... the deluded will never be convinced anyway. I think I would rather stand before God with a few truly saved from my labors than a multitude pointing the finger at me for confirming them in their unbelief.
THE DEEP INDOCTRINATION:
My father was a Hyles follower for years. My sister went to HAC where she met her husband. Our family was so steeped in his philosophy we would not make a move without consulting Mr. Hyles' many books and articles. My father thought that he [Hyles] was doing right, but I could tell that he struggled with his [Hyles] teachings for years. We were deep in the cult, though, and there was no turning back. Hyles ruined our family ... I have struggled for years myself hating Hyles for his sick teachings and his ability to sway so many people in his direction. I realize now that the man may not have been saved himself. My father was a good man who loved the Lord with all his heart. His only mistake was to listen to Hyles and believe that he was a man of God when he was not. My father passed away in 1997, no longer believing Hyles was the great man he once thought, yet not quite ready to denounce his teaching or to believe that he was as bad as he really was. But now in heaven, he knows the truth, and the truth is the mighty Dr. Jack Hyles is not there
FORMER HAC STUDENT:
I attended multiple youth conferences while I was a teenager (1976-1979), and attended Hyles-Anderson college for one year. I left after that year to pursue education at a different school. I am so thankful! Others were deeply scarred. I have never, ever spoken to anyone but my parents, my wife, and my brother-in -aw about why I left. But here it is: (1) Dave Hyles telling dirty jokes to students while he played basketball with us. I could not reconcile this close personal image with his public image; (2) Being actively discouraged from reading important books by various great Christian leaders because I had not yet completed every book by Jack Hyles and John R. Rice; (3) Joe Combs' meetings with ministerial students about how to keep a wife, which included some rather sick and debauched advice. I'm sure equivalent advice would have been available around the water cooler at work or in a pornographic magazine. It simply couldn't be found in Scripture; (4) The idolatry of students toward Dr. Hyles himself, which seemed only to be encouraged by every structure, event, and even by every sermon he preached.
A SHORT LIST OF JACK HYLES 'PREACHER BOYS' AND THEIR 'FRUITS' FROM CONSERVATIVEBABYLON.COM
• William A. “Andy” Beith
Claims to fame: Former Hyles-Anderson student and 27-year-old principal of Liberty Baptist Academy (Lake Station, Indiana); kidnapper; child rapist
Moral apex: Had sex, on multiple occasions, with one of his students, an 11-year-old girl, then took off with her across the country, landing in Las Vegas, where Beith planned to “set up housekeeping,” marry, and have babies with the child.
Busted: In Las Vegas, where he pleaded guilty in 2001 to crossing state lines with the intent of having sex with a minor. Local and state charges were dropped so that federal prosecutors could take care of the case. (He did, after all, transport her across eleven statelines.)
• William S. Beith
Claims to fame: Hyles-Anderson graduate; founder, Liberty Baptist Church (Lake Station, Indiana); founder and principal, Liberty Baptist Academy; down-low ‘mo; really bad father
Moral apex: Gosh, it’s hard to choose just one.
There’s the time he was forced to resign (in 1998) from Liberty Baptist Academy after his arrest for public indecency (he solicited an undercover cop — a dude — for oral sex). But he got out of that on a plea bargain, agreeing to probation and counseling.
• Joe Combs
Claims to fame: He: ex-pastor, Emmanuel Baptist Church (Bristol, Tennessee); ex-head, Hyles-Anderson College Bible Department; child rapist and batterer; She: child abuser
In May, 2000, Judge Jerry Beck sentenced Joe Combs to a total of 114 years in prison, and Evangeline Combs to 65 years.
• Mark Foeller
Claim to fame: Yet another in a long line of Hyles-Anderson College graduates (who also served as deacon and volunteer bus driver for Jack Hyles‘ First Baptist Church) accused of molesting children
The lowdown:
Mark Foeller, the volunteer bus driver, has four counts of first- and second-degree child sexual assault pending against him in Washtenaw County, [Washtenaw County Prosecutor Brian Mackie] said. Seven additional charges were brought against Foeller last week in neighboring Jackson County.
• Russell Hirner
Claims to fame: Former principal of Longview Baptist Academy (”perhaps the number one church/school in the Jack Hyles orbit”); pedophile
Moral apex: Molested at least seven young girls, all in his own Kilgore, Texas, home, while serving as principal of one of the two Christian schools operated by Longview Baptist Temple.
• Dave Hyles
Jack Hyles son...look him up! Also lots of sexual improprieties!
• Timothy Lee Leonard
Claims to fame: Former associate pastor of North Sharon Baptist Church (near Ann Arbor, MI); honored alumnus of (surprise!) Hyles Anderson College; accused child molester
Moral apex: Charged, in 1992, with 11 counts of first- and second-degree sexual assault on children.
The company he kept: Leonard was accused of child molestation right around the same time as North Sharon Baptist deacon (and — surprise! — fellow Hyles-Anderson grad) Mark Foeller was accused of the same thing.
• Kerry Martin
Claims to fame: Pastor of Temecula Valley Baptist Church (California); child rapist; and — yes! — another Hyles Anderson graduate
Moral apex: Raped a 14-year-old girl in his office at the Temecula Valley (CA) Baptist Church, in July, 1997.
What’s worse: That 14-year-old was (probably) not the only victim.
...MORE TO COME
JUST DO A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR 'IFB CULT SURVIVORS' OR 'HYLES CULT' AND YOU WILL FIND ALOT OF INFO!!
EXCERPT FROM:
http://www.blessedquietness.com/journal/housechu/hyles-j.htm
I am finding the battle with the disciples of Jack Hyles a threat to my health. I have been threatened with physical attack, hints of death, entrapped in "private" email exchanges which were later posted to large mailing lists, lied about on boards, and threatened with law suits. This has not been from the Hyles family-- It has come from his disciples.
No one in Christendom, nor in witchcraft, nor the sodomites, have sent me more filthy and hateful mail than the Hyles people. They are bullies with no restraint. Their level of hate is beyond measure. In fact, I have lost my confidence in the Baptist concept. The lust for porn, power, and pesos by Baptist preachers, by and large, is beyond anything I have seen in the rest of Christendom. And, I think that is not overstatement. I have lived in the midst of Anglicans, Maryknoll Fathers, Jesuits, Pentecostals, Holiness, Methodists, Episcopalians, Presbyterians, Dutch Reformed, Lutherans, Nazarenes, Independents, Armenians, Orthodox, Mennonites, Amish, and others I cannot recall now. I have NEVER seen anything as hate driven, and as blind in guruism, as the Hyles club.
Even Benny Hinn, Paul Crouch, and the Pope will happily take your gift, pat you on the head, and walk off content. The average Fundamental Baptist preacher pockets your gift, and then he takes control of your home, your kids, your wife, your procreation choices, your time, your clothing choices, your loyalty, and your mind.
CAUTION: Not all Fundamental Baptist pastors are such beasts, but you need to know that you cannot just drift along without examining all things. Thank God for you who have caught on and gotten right. Virtually ALL Hyles men are suspect and should be avoided. If you love your wife, and your daughter's virginity, you will not go near a Hyles church.
Furthermore; all Baptists, no matter how sound they me be perceived, are on their way to the Hyles mind. I believe there is a devil investment in the Baptist movement, similar to the demonic invasion of the Methodist Church in about the 1950s, which will destroy virtually all Baptist churches eventually.
SALIENT COMMENTS TAKEN FROM TESTIMONIALS OF FORMER HYLES FUNDAMENTALISTS TAKEN FROM:
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/hyles/testim.htm
FROM A FUNDAMENTALIST PASTOR:
Jack Hyles is the "Elijah" of this generation, and not to be questioned, criticized or spoken ill of;
God only is working through First Baptist and that church is needed if revival is going to take place in America;
Jack Hyles is personally responsible for my salvation (no kidding, he claims if Jack were not around, no Americans today would be saved -- he said I needed to "thank" Hyles for my salvation);
All churches in America have been touched by Jack Hyles;
Jack Hyles has "led" more people to the Lord than anyone; therefore; he is not be questioned;
Hyles words are final authority (he admitted that he doesn’t compare Hyles teachings to scripture, as this would be sin).
FROM AN HAC DEACON:
I could tell many stories, but here are the things that made me, after a year down at HAC, not want to be a part of that movement [any longer]:
1. The demands and hours of service were absolutely crazy. The real "spiritual" students were praised for giving their entire lives for ridiculous schedules. Some were often physically ill because of the demands. Where was family life? No wonder so many were falling into immorality. I must note that when I was there, I felt safe and never saw outward signs of immorality or felt Dr. Hyles said lewd things. I guess I was involved when there was still enough Godly influence on the college staff; I don't know.
2. They acted as though they were the only ones with truth. My church back home where I was saved was "not separated enough." That really put a big red flag in my mind.
3. Dr. Hyles would allow us as female students to sit on his car hood while he drove off slowly, after a girl's meeting with "Daddy Hyles," screaming, "We love you preacher!" like he was some rock star with groupies!!! He would throw down 10- and 20-dollar bills from the cafeteria balcony at screaming girls. He would allow the girls to pat his back and "touch his garments" so to speak, when he would go to the cafeteria after a girl's meeting to have our free pizza. When I was in it, I thought it was perfectly normal. It took some years to see the inappropriateness of this "hero worship." But at the time it really met "needs" for love, excitement, fun, and significance.
4. One of my roommates, after a Sunday night service, got into the "preacher boys line" outside of Dr. Hyles' office to ask a question. She was not aware she was not to be in THAT line. Well, according to her, Dr. Hyles screamed at her in front of everyone and told her off for being in the wrong line. She related this story, still shaken and in tears in our dorm. We were kind of in shock, and calmed her down by saying, "he's tired, I'm sure he didn't mean it". That was the other red flag in my mind.
FROM ANOTHER HAC DEACON:
" As long as you agree with him and don't buck what he has to say -- you're okay. Members are shunned if they disagree.
Some issues:
1. Monies (thousands of dollars) are not reported to any of the members. These monies are spent on non-needed things.
2. Several buddies (of the pastor) are employed by the church. .... without voting upon them or without knowledge of members.
3. Leadership (deacons) has no say so in any matters.
4. There is no accountability.
5. Members say that he has a cult. -- I forgot to mention ... when he came to our church three years ago from another state, he brought along three families of followers (non-family members.) These families sit near the pulpit ... like they are protecting him.
6. He brought in a child-molester (from out of state) to head our media ministry. He knew of this man's past, but failed to tell anyone at the church, [yet] we have many children in our services. I stumbled on this information.
I could go on and on. ... I still have many members that call and they are very upset with what he is still doing there at the church, but they can't [seem to] leave.
A FEMALE HAC STUDENT:
I remember some of the meetings that the college girls would have with "The Preacher" (Dr. Hyles). If anyone would have walked into the room, they would have thought that all these college age girls were waiting for Elvis to return. We were taught to actually worship him and treat him as an idol. There was a song that we would sing to him to make him come out to the stage:
"We love you preacher, oh yes we do, we don't love anyone as much as you. If you're not with us, we're blue, Oh Preacher we love you"!
He would not come out until the girls were in a frenzy. What happened to only preaching Christ and him crucified? Even at the time, these meetings made me very uncomfortable. They seemed to be very sexual in nature. He would speak to us as if we were his girls that he was trying to court or swoon. Being a mother today, I would NEVER allow my daughter to attend these meetings. Hyles' Church and college have hurt many people. Many of the young pastors that have looked up to him (like the one that I spoke of) carry on his legacy of man-worship. I feel mostly for the women who suffer the degrading remarks and humiliation that comes from their beliefs.
A BODY GUARD OF JACK HYLES (WHY WOULD HE NEED A BODY GUARD IN THE FIRST PLACE??)
I was one of Jack Hyles' personal body guards from 1978-83. If you only knew the actual man. I met with him personally and saw his megalomania and personal greed. I have talked with many of his personal staff and found their stories to be reputable when proclaiming his escapades and sexually perverted tendencies. There was one staff member at Hyles Anderson College, a Bill McFadden, who had sex with a student in the chapel tunnel; when it was reported, the incident was swept under the rug and dismissed. Jack was not going to let this ruin his monarchy. Jack was more like Jimmy Swaggart or James Bakker than a man of God
A MAN GIVEN THE SOUL WINNER OF THE YEAR AWARD:
Jack Hyles would say and do anything to validate his ministry and his massive ego. Numbers were ALL that mattered to him. I have seen buses full of black children who, while not being allowed in the bus ministry, were driven down the alley behind the church, told to repeat a prayer, and counted as "souls won on church property" during big days. It was a disgraceful practice!
In all my years in Hyles' church I was NEVER able to find ONE person whom Jack Hyles personally led to the Lord, even in his own fraudulent way. He was big on sending others, but he himself NEVER went!
Thank you for reminding folks what a fraud this entire ministry was and is. His son-in-law now runs the show. He is a man who is thoroughly compromised by his detailed knowledge of everything that went on there for twenty years -- the moral degeneracy of Dave Hyles, the child molestations, the rampant affairs, divorces, debauchery and adultery, the lust and fornication on the part of so many staff members, the cultishness, the siege mentality, the twisted doctrine, the arranged marriages, and so much more. I have seen it all firsthand.
A SON OF AN HAC PASTOR:
My dad would follow the Hyles handbook on child raising, and was very abusive. When he would take me in the room to spank me, he would have me remove my pants and he would turn out the light, it was dark outside, and he would use his belt and he would not care where it hit. Many times I went to school the next day with bleeding welts on my back and legs and would have a black eye from where the belt hit me in the face. There were times when I was sent to school without food and I would beg for food from my friends. Once at the school, my first grade teacher took my lunch away from me and threw it in the garbage for talking in class. I had already gone two days without food and was so eagerly wanting that lunch that after school I went to the dumpster and tore open the garbage bags until I found my lunch. Another time my Dad took me into a field and made me run, and if he caught me he would beat me until I was bleeding. Needles to say, being only eight years old, he caught me.
THE NUMBERS GAME:
I am a Hyles-Anderson grad, and everything you said is right on the mark. Some of us truly tried to present the Gospel clearly, but we had nowhere near the numbers the "big boys" did. If the Hyles and Grays and Neals and all the others who are having "thousands saved," presented salvation as a complete change of life, you know what the results would be. When I sat in the auditorium in Hammond for seven years (2 degrees), I hardly ever saw anyone coming regularly who looked [or acted] like they were newly saved people. Oh, they might come once, but that was it. Let's face it, if they were having 15-20,000 baptisms a year (that wasn't so either, but that's another story) and only 1% were real and began attending, they would have needed to add seating for another 500 people every 3 years or so. It never happened. What a fantasy. This all panders to pride and arrogance, which is the driving force behind all these ministries. I could go on and so could you, but for what ... the deluded will never be convinced anyway. I think I would rather stand before God with a few truly saved from my labors than a multitude pointing the finger at me for confirming them in their unbelief.
THE DEEP INDOCTRINATION:
My father was a Hyles follower for years. My sister went to HAC where she met her husband. Our family was so steeped in his philosophy we would not make a move without consulting Mr. Hyles' many books and articles. My father thought that he [Hyles] was doing right, but I could tell that he struggled with his [Hyles] teachings for years. We were deep in the cult, though, and there was no turning back. Hyles ruined our family ... I have struggled for years myself hating Hyles for his sick teachings and his ability to sway so many people in his direction. I realize now that the man may not have been saved himself. My father was a good man who loved the Lord with all his heart. His only mistake was to listen to Hyles and believe that he was a man of God when he was not. My father passed away in 1997, no longer believing Hyles was the great man he once thought, yet not quite ready to denounce his teaching or to believe that he was as bad as he really was. But now in heaven, he knows the truth, and the truth is the mighty Dr. Jack Hyles is not there
FORMER HAC STUDENT:
I attended multiple youth conferences while I was a teenager (1976-1979), and attended Hyles-Anderson college for one year. I left after that year to pursue education at a different school. I am so thankful! Others were deeply scarred. I have never, ever spoken to anyone but my parents, my wife, and my brother-in -aw about why I left. But here it is: (1) Dave Hyles telling dirty jokes to students while he played basketball with us. I could not reconcile this close personal image with his public image; (2) Being actively discouraged from reading important books by various great Christian leaders because I had not yet completed every book by Jack Hyles and John R. Rice; (3) Joe Combs' meetings with ministerial students about how to keep a wife, which included some rather sick and debauched advice. I'm sure equivalent advice would have been available around the water cooler at work or in a pornographic magazine. It simply couldn't be found in Scripture; (4) The idolatry of students toward Dr. Hyles himself, which seemed only to be encouraged by every structure, event, and even by every sermon he preached.
A SHORT LIST OF JACK HYLES 'PREACHER BOYS' AND THEIR 'FRUITS' FROM CONSERVATIVEBABYLON.COM
• William A. “Andy” Beith
Claims to fame: Former Hyles-Anderson student and 27-year-old principal of Liberty Baptist Academy (Lake Station, Indiana); kidnapper; child rapist
Moral apex: Had sex, on multiple occasions, with one of his students, an 11-year-old girl, then took off with her across the country, landing in Las Vegas, where Beith planned to “set up housekeeping,” marry, and have babies with the child.
Busted: In Las Vegas, where he pleaded guilty in 2001 to crossing state lines with the intent of having sex with a minor. Local and state charges were dropped so that federal prosecutors could take care of the case. (He did, after all, transport her across eleven statelines.)
• William S. Beith
Claims to fame: Hyles-Anderson graduate; founder, Liberty Baptist Church (Lake Station, Indiana); founder and principal, Liberty Baptist Academy; down-low ‘mo; really bad father
Moral apex: Gosh, it’s hard to choose just one.
There’s the time he was forced to resign (in 1998) from Liberty Baptist Academy after his arrest for public indecency (he solicited an undercover cop — a dude — for oral sex). But he got out of that on a plea bargain, agreeing to probation and counseling.
• Joe Combs
Claims to fame: He: ex-pastor, Emmanuel Baptist Church (Bristol, Tennessee); ex-head, Hyles-Anderson College Bible Department; child rapist and batterer; She: child abuser
In May, 2000, Judge Jerry Beck sentenced Joe Combs to a total of 114 years in prison, and Evangeline Combs to 65 years.
• Mark Foeller
Claim to fame: Yet another in a long line of Hyles-Anderson College graduates (who also served as deacon and volunteer bus driver for Jack Hyles‘ First Baptist Church) accused of molesting children
The lowdown:
Mark Foeller, the volunteer bus driver, has four counts of first- and second-degree child sexual assault pending against him in Washtenaw County, [Washtenaw County Prosecutor Brian Mackie] said. Seven additional charges were brought against Foeller last week in neighboring Jackson County.
• Russell Hirner
Claims to fame: Former principal of Longview Baptist Academy (”perhaps the number one church/school in the Jack Hyles orbit”); pedophile
Moral apex: Molested at least seven young girls, all in his own Kilgore, Texas, home, while serving as principal of one of the two Christian schools operated by Longview Baptist Temple.
• Dave Hyles
Jack Hyles son...look him up! Also lots of sexual improprieties!
• Timothy Lee Leonard
Claims to fame: Former associate pastor of North Sharon Baptist Church (near Ann Arbor, MI); honored alumnus of (surprise!) Hyles Anderson College; accused child molester
Moral apex: Charged, in 1992, with 11 counts of first- and second-degree sexual assault on children.
The company he kept: Leonard was accused of child molestation right around the same time as North Sharon Baptist deacon (and — surprise! — fellow Hyles-Anderson grad) Mark Foeller was accused of the same thing.
• Kerry Martin
Claims to fame: Pastor of Temecula Valley Baptist Church (California); child rapist; and — yes! — another Hyles Anderson graduate
Moral apex: Raped a 14-year-old girl in his office at the Temecula Valley (CA) Baptist Church, in July, 1997.
What’s worse: That 14-year-old was (probably) not the only victim.
...MORE TO COME
JUST DO A GOOGLE SEARCH FOR 'IFB CULT SURVIVORS' OR 'HYLES CULT' AND YOU WILL FIND ALOT OF INFO!!
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